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dwsonar

Thinking about a CT again

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dwsonar

I've already used the search feature, and most info there is fairly old. I'm thinking there may be something new to consider, so I'm asking again.

Those who are running CT's, which tire are you using? Good? Bad? Run flat or not? 

 

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youngnbald

In my signature is what I run and will continue to run.  They work great and I will not change until this can't be bought anymore.

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youngnbald

Just noticed you have the 1500.  Sorry.  Different tire needed then.  I heard the 1500 is 50/50 shot.  Some had problems and others don't, but no one knows why that is bike to bike.  Pick a tire, try, give time to learn the "new" feel and get over the scare people can place in you that "you will die to try it".

 

The reason I am going to die by using a CT....I drive harder and lean further since I feel so solid on it!!!!

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AZgl1800

on the 1500s, the Austone Taxi tire seems to be the longest lived, and has the highest user count.

 

IIRC, there is only one source for them in the USA,

https://www.universaltire.com/175r16-austone-taxi-black.html

 

 

here is an old thread showing almost new looking tread at 18.000 miles

 

http://www.goldwingfacts.com/forums/2-goldwing-technical-forum/507593-austone-wear-pics-18-000-miles.html

 

There is another Classic Car type tire that will run on the 1500, the link I have is broken, but the same retailer sells the tire

Vredestein  https://www.tirerack.com/tires/vredestein-tires.jsp

 

 

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dwsonar

Thanks.

John, that Austone is about the same price as a MC tire. I know longer wear and all, but I thought they were cheaper.

On another group, I notice quite a few other tires being used, many of them RF. I'll go back and look, then list some here to see if anyone has opinions about them.

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dwsonar
Michelin Agelis 195/75-16

 

Vredestein Comtrac 175/75 R16

 

 

General Altimax HP 195-55-16

 

Yokohama ADVAN Neova AD07 175/55-16

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dwsonar

175/60/16 federal formoza

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AZgl1800

I don't know if that 195 tire will fit into the bike after it is mounted up?

 

I don't have any user links to refer to on that.

 

Here is my Bookmarks on tires that will fit the 1500, I have not tried to follow any of them.

Obviously, as of the day that I bookmarked these links, they were good.. But, my bookmarking system is now going on 10 years old... and links seems to expire after a while.

 

Car Tires on 1500s
1500 Dark Side question GWRRA
1500 Darkside tire- Dunlop 17560-16
175R16 Austone Taxi Tire - Dunlop Radial Tires - Dunlop Tires
2262009 Car Tire on a 1500
3022008 Has anyone fitted car (auto) tires to their 1500
3072008 Using radial car tires on a GL1500 - My thread I started abo (...)
3222008 Car tires on Bikes
3262008 Car Tire on Rear of 1500
4222009 CAR TIRE on 1500 the Master List thread
9102008 Car tire in rear of 1500 goldwing - asks the question no answ (...)
Car Tire on a GL 1500 mentions a car tire that fits the OEM wheel
Dunlop Austere 175R-16
Dusty explains CTs for the average rider are good *****
Federal Forenza FD2 Car Tire on GL1500 - good reports
Good tire for GL1500 Goodyear Assurance 175/60/16
GWRRA Message Board No Flames Please CT thread
HELP... 1756016 Dunlop rof - Goldwing Technical Forum - Forums - Steve (...)
HT wheels - Harry Tarzian - ADVrider
Review, GL1500 w 1756016 Dunlop Wintersport ROF Radial - GL1800Riders
tires-easy.com - Details Federal FORMOZA FD2 17560 R16 82H BSW
Using radial car tires on a GL1500 - General Motorcycle Discussion For (...)
Using radial car tires on a GL1500 - My thread aboutTarzan's modificat (...)
What car tire fits a 1500 rear
What car tire fits a 1500 rear
GL1500 Car Tire Impressions - Review of mine
GL1500 Front tire selection question -See update post #5
Car Tire Sizes for GL1500 see posts 384, 385
Austone Taxi Tire for the 1500
Austone negative comment
Known Car Tires that will fit a 1500 as of 4/2014
GL1500 darkside options -
Dunlop Graspic DS-3 will fit 1500
175R16 Austone Taxi Tire - Dunlop Radial Tires - Dunlop Tires
Austone wear pics at 18,000 miles -
Dunlop Graspic DS-3 175 60-R16 - Steve Saunders Goldwing Forums
Darksider Porn: "You want to look..." - Steve Saunders Goldwing Forums
All Links Good as of 11-18-2015
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OnaWingandaPrayer

Though no longer available in the states I was very pleased with Dunlop 175/60/16 RF wintersport on my 1500. 

I purchased a 195/55/16 RF Wintersport as a replacement. Some say that size will fit a 1500.  I could see no way to get a 5" wide set of tire beads to fit onto a 3.5 wide rim.  Perhaps a non RF will flex enough to fit OK . 

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OnaWingandaPrayer

IIRC Dusty used a 195 on his 1500 for a spell.

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Dusty Boots

Yes, I mounted a Yokohama Avid ENVigor ZPS 195/55R-16 run flat on my 1500. 

 

While I had heard from others that mounting a run flat tire onto the rim was a real pain, I found it went on the rim pretty well without all that much trouble   .....   BUT  ....   was a bit of a chore getting the bead set just right, but after 6 - 7 attempts I got it to set evenly.

 

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Twas a bit of a chore shoehorning it in the swingarm.  IIRC, it took a few 'boots' to get it shoved in there and once mated to the final drive, there wasn't much clearance to the right swingarm!!  ....   BUT it didn't rub as there was adequate clearance with my bike.

 

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I have tried quite a few CTs and although I liked the mileage/handling of the Taxi Tire, I didn't like the fact it rubbed at the front of the swingarm when you hit a bump/dip and you had to slip the clutch more taking off from a stop (especially on an incline/towing a trailer!!)

 

The run flat Yok (which has stiff sidewalls) handles at least every bit as good as the 6 ply Taxi tire, are no rub issues and because it's a smaller diameter tire than the both the OEM size and Taxi tire, there is less clutch slipping/wear needed.

Probably the best CT I have ran!

 

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I disliked the 175/60-16 Formoza for a number of reasons. One was the squirrely handling, no matter how I adjusted the air pressure, the rear end felt like it wanted to swap ends when exiting a corner under heavier throttle (most likely due to only a 2 ply sidewall, allowing for too much 'flex'!). I also lost too much ride height as it was a smaller diameter tire than the stock 160/80-16 moto tire and would drag the undercarriage on big dips and bottom out going over larger speed bumps in parking lots!!. I didn't get much more tire mileage wise than an Dunlop E3!!

Because of the Formoza's smaller diameter, the bike was a rocket. Hit the throttle and the bike was gone!

 

I'm currently needing to replace the tires on my new to me Victory and seeing as how Dunlop has changed their E4 front to a centre rib, that tire is out of the equation. so I'm thinking on running an Avon Cobra up front and most likely the Yokomaha run flat on the rear.. The Vic has a wider rim than the 1500, so getting the bead to set properly should be easier.

 

Hope this helps some.

 

Dusty

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winger77

I have been running the Taxi for some time now. It does give great mileage (25 -30k) and the handling is superb IMO. But like Dusty mentioned, it does have the rubbing issue in the front of the swing arm. And when the bike is loaded with gear, you need to keep the rear shock pressure set pretty high to keep from bottoming against the top of the inner fender. I had to replace my inner fender because it wore right through it. 

So I’m interested in that “Yoko” that Dusty mentions. 

Also,, because of the diameter of the Taxi,, (along with raising rear suspension), you don’t want to be short legged as it really does raise the seat height.

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dwsonar

Dusty, with the shorter tire, what rpm's were you turning at 70? 

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Dusty Boots

IIRC with the 175/60-16, I was turning something like 3,300 RPM

With the 195/55-16, I was turning about 3,200 (?)

There was a 500 RPM difference at the same speed between the 175/60-16 and the taller taxi tire, but no difference in fuel mileage

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Dusty Boots

I ended up recently getting another  Yokohama Avid ENVigor ZPS 195/55R-16 run flat for my Victory, as I really liked it on my 1500 Aspencade!!  :thumbs-up:

 

 

 

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Mysticfour
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What kind of mileage are you getting out of the yokohama tire? 

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Road Runner

I have a ZPS (RF) 195/55R-16 Yokohama AVID ENVigor to install as soon as I return to Ohio from sunny Florida. Probably by April I will be running it instead of my current Dunlop Wintersport 175. Be interesting to see the difference.

 

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AZgl1800
On 3/9/2018 at 10:46 PM, Mysticfour said:

What kind of mileage are you getting out of the yokohama tire? 

 

Mine is a Michelin RF ZP, and I suppose the difference isn't all that much.

I have had a +4 windshield and that is IMO, costing me a lot in mpg figures.  the best I have had is 39, the worst is 25 pulling the trailer in a 50 mph cross wind.

 

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Mysticfour

Let me rephrase that,  how many miles average do you get on those tires. 10,000,  20,0000? More?

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AZgl1800

I can't answer that, the CT has about 5,000 miles on it and still looks brand new.

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Dusty Boots

With the Taxi Tire, I would get ~ 40,000 mi

1st time running the Yok and have about 19,000 mi on it and it is 65% worn. I should have dropped the PSI on it as it's the centre part of the tread that is worn on it

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Mysticfour

I think I am going to try to get an Austone tire this summer,  seems like a safe bet as it get lots of miles out of it 

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yooperfan

I run a Uniroyal Tiger Paw on my 1800.  It was the oem tire on all 3 of my Chevy S-10s and they lasted forever, so I figured I would try it on the wing.  I currently have about 6,000 mi on that tire and about 9,000 mi on the front BTX 45 and neither show any sign of wear.  Double dark is the way to go for me.  Neither are RFs.  I would feel comfortable with plugging a CT more than a m/c tire.

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Monkeytrucker

We have a Yokohama Envignor on our 1800 and most of the miles are pulling a Aspen Classic.  Have 24k+ on it and there is at least that much more.  Tread is still looking almost new.  We have balance beads in both tires and while some are disbelievers (like I was) they extend tire mileage.

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Offcenter

I have the Nokian 195 55 light truck tire on mine.

For the first 1000 miles or so, it felt a bit squirrely at highway speeds.

But once the carcass got broken in, that went away. Now it feels solid as

a rock. Great in the rain and holds the corners in twisties like glue.

It now has over 8,ooo miles on it and barely shows any sign of wear yet.

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